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About the Scene
Our group is working on Act 2, Scene 2 and Act 3, Scene 2 from Shakespeare’s Hamlet, and they will also look at the beginning of Act 2 in Tom Stoppard’s Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead.
CREATIVE TEAM
- DIRECTOR: Geoffrey Wade
- DRAMATURG: Gideon Rappaport
- And the PLAYERS: Marcelo Tubert, Nick Cagle and Dan Cordova
Scenes from the Folger Shakespeare Library here and here for the Hamlet sections.
BOOKS
Dr. Gideon Rappaport has written three books on Shakespeare:
- William Shakespeare’s Hamlet: Edited and Annotated
- Appreciating Shakespeare
- Shakespeare’s Rhetorical Figures: An Outline
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Nathan Agin
Hi everybody, welcome back for week three of Shakespeare and Stopper. And as we continue looking at the friendship of Hamlet, rose, Krantz and Giler in both Shakespeare’s play Hamlet and Tom Stopper’s play Rose Krantz and Gild. Ern are dead. Looking at a couple scenes in one and one scene in the other. And yeah, really excited that, that this group continues to really get deep into what’s going on with these characters. If you’ve missed anything, this is your first time checking out one of these sessions. Go back either before or after this and watch weeks one and two. You know, really, I, I think you’ll be surprised and delighted with how much you know, the group can mine from this material and, and how much you might learn and, and take away and deepen your understanding and appreciation of the plays. So that’s it.
Hi Nathan. I, I should always do that at the top, but rarely do I remember.
So yes, I’ll be listening in to the group, hopefully be able to check in at the end. I’ll turn it over to our director, Jeffrey. And with that, I hope you guys have another great session.
Marcelo Tubert
Thank you.
You’re muted.
Geoffrey Wade
I’m muted. Yes. Thank you Nathan. And hello everybody. And I always think I’m gonna be better organized and then at the last minute it’s like, oh, I forgot to do this. Anyway.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Let, let me start off. It’s nice to have you back, Gideon.
Gideon Rappaport
Me too.
Geoffrey Wade
And, and thank you. I think I thanked you personally, but for everyone, thank you for that. The email sort of setting the scene for us once again and, and reminding us of things we’d talked about before.
It’s really great.
It, it just, if for you other guys, if you’re interested, I’ll, I’ll send you this link. I found it’s a, it’s a story out of Smithsonian Magazine about the Folger Theater in the Folger Library, which has a small theater in it in Washington DC
Folger was a a a man in the time, and if you don’t know if, if you do know, I’m sorry to to bore you with this, but Folger was a pretty much of a self-made man at the turn of the century and the time of the Robert Barons. He became the first, the president of Standard Oil. He and John d Rockefeller worked together. He became a very wealthy man, but he started off younger.
Well, don’t do well. He started off younger, interested in Shakespeare. He, he, he bought a copy of a First Folio with money in this story anyway that he could Ill afford. He eventually built up the greatest, perhaps the greatest collection of Shakespeare in the world. Maybe rivaled by the British Library, something, who knows. But he has, what’s the number? I I said 83 First Folios 83 First Folios, which are the, the article is because the, the library is expanded by, they had to dig underground. They created a huge library underground. And they have one purpose-Built Shelf that displays all those books at once in a safe and observable way.
It’s, it’s pretty amazing. I was very fortunate to be able to actually perform Hamlet at the Folger many years ago because Amherst College, where I went and where Folger went is the trustee for the place. And back in the seventies we would take one full one, one Shakespeare play a year down there, and we’d do it up in Amherst, then we’d do it down there. And so I got to do Richard the second down there and much a do and then play the title role in Hamlet.
Nick Cagle
So
Geoffrey Wade
it, it was a pretty amazing place. Then. They had lots of old costumes and books that you could see. You couldn’t actually handle them unless you were a scholar, of course.
But it’s a, it’s an amazing place. And the idea of having 83 of these things, which apparently is roughly a third of all the first folios in the world.
Gideon Rappaport
Yeah. Might even be more.
Geoffrey Wade
More. Yeah. It’s a lot. There are only around 200. Anyway, that was a really interesting thing.
So let me, let me ask again the way I did last week, you know, for you guys just to say hello and talk to each other and let us know if you had some thoughts or discoveries or read or saw something fascinating or interesting in this intervening week.
And then we’ll take off and start to work on the text some more. So since you’re nearest to me on, on my screen, Dan, you wanna start us off? Do you have anything you wanna say?
Daniel Cordova
I just think, you know, looking through the text again, I, you know, I did a little bit on, on Word and was, so I, I did have to kind of retype a few things. It kind of forced me to kinda look at some of the texts and I, I just think continuing with what we’ve talked about in the first two weeks, seeing that for all of the characters that, that there is a journey that none of them are in the same place at the end of these three scenes as they were at the beginning.
And sometimes we forget that especially, you know, with some of the, I guess what we would say are the more supporting characters with Rose and Captain Guild Stern. A lot of times you think, you know, you see productions or you, or you, you hear things about them and, and it’s kind of one note because they represent something, you know, and, and so you don’t really sense the journey. But in going through it over and over and over again, you do sense that there’s such a journey for them and for Hamlet, you know, through all of these scenes.
Geoffrey Wade
Excellent. Really good. Really good. And Actorly observation Stoppard helped us. I mean, it’s something we should all know anyway, but Stoppard really helped us out to, to know that for this play and all plays, I mean,
Marcelo Tubert
Well it was, it was very, very clear this week about how the, the stopper play really informs their, their state that Rosa Krants and Gild Stern and Hamlet, that whole discussion about what they, they were doing.
Just clarify. I had some clarity I think this week about
Geoffrey Wade
good, Excellent.
Marcelo Tubert
The Shakespeare of the, the language, the flow, I’m hoping it flows a little better than it has. And, but as, as Dan was speaking, I just realized how, how what a great gift that Rosa Kre, the, the stopper Rose Kress and Gild and Stir that scene really helps clarify a bunch of the stuff that we’ve been doing in The Yeah. In The Shakespeare.
Geoffrey Wade
Good. Oh, I’m so glad I’m, that’s, that’s part of what I’d, I’d hoped for. But one thing I noticed from our work last week on here was the way, and, and I guess opera must have seen this or was the way, particularly in the, the second scene that there, the way Gild and Stern questions, Hamlet and the way Rosen Kranz does are different. They they’re different characters and
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah. And to that, to that’s to that end. That’s what he goes, I was waiting for you to pounce. You Know? Yeah,
Nick Cagle
yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
We,
Geoffrey Wade
you planned this thing and then you didn’t do it. It’s, you know, you let, you let me down. It’s, it’s, it’s really great.
Nick Cagle
You Know, when, when dealing with Shakespeare, we don’t get, we don’t talk as much about subtext as you do and with other work because a lot of that is presented in the lines. And it’s, it’s fascinating to, to look at some of that subtext from Stopper’s viewpoint in this. And, and there’s a lot going on with the way that Gild and Stern shuts down when, when he’s cornered. And, and Rosen Krantz will continue to, to speak and the differences between the characters. And that’s my favorite part of this exploration.
Geoffrey Wade
Great. Great. It’s, it’s, it’s really wonderful because, you know, so often they are lumped together or, you know, chunks of them, their, their stuff is cut.
They’re, they’re sort of assumed to be only minor variations of really the same person or they’re there just for the joke. But they do have very active and legitimate lives going on. Great.
Anything else?
Gade, you got anything you wanna add to that, that email you Sent
Daniel Cordova
out? I wanna add one more just
Geoffrey Wade
Oh, yeah,
Daniel Cordova
go ahead. Interesting note that I came across is that, you know, I have been in these weeks also looking at different productions on YouTube and, and such. And I noticed, I thought it was so interesting, I went and looked at the Olivier Hamlet from whatever that was, 1950 or 1948 or whatever.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah.
Daniel Cordova
The Rose GR Guild were completely cut out of that production. Yeah. I’ve seen, I’ve seen Forton bras cut out. I’ve seen some other characters cut out, but I’ve never seen them cut out. And I thought that was, I kept waiting to go to the scene where they, where these guys come in and they’re, and they’re not in it at all.
Geoffrey Wade
That’s interesting. I, I remember, this is one of the things for you guys, a a note that b before the start out I writing to Gideon about, you know, sort of the way we were gonna look at this, and I realized that one of the first things I said was that I don’t think this play can be encapsulated in one, you know, one catchphrase or Hamlet does X, y, Z because, you know, he wants to sleep with his mother or something there.
I’m not saying his elements aren’t there, but you can’t do the play about that. You know, that’s the reason it’s such a great play. But one of the first things I I I’ve mentioned was that, that dreadful opening voiceover in Olivier’s Hamlet, where he calls it the story of a man who can’t make up his mind. Yeah. And I, This is
Gideon Rappaport
the story
Geoffrey Wade
of
Gideon Rappaport
a man who could not make up his mind.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. And I remember And the
Gideon Rappaport
Greatest voice,
Geoffrey Wade
the
Gideon Rappaport
greatest Shakespearean voice ever. And it’s pure balderdash.
Nick Cagle
It’s
Geoffrey Wade
rubbish. I also remember the, the first time I saw that movie, and not probably the only ’cause, you know, I was a, a teenager or something, and I remember thinking, why is this place so great? ’cause it’s, it’s a really boring movie, I think.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
Which is what happens, you know, when you try to, in any Shakespeare play, when you try to make it into one thing, it, it, a you won’t succeed and the things you have to do to make it fit into your mold will almost inevitably make it less interesting. Anyway. Yes.
That, that movie baffled me. I, I remember watching and thinking, why is this the greatest play ever written? I,
Gideon Rappaport
The movie was all about the bed Yeah. Bedroom. And it was because of Shahs. Olivier came under the influence of Ernest Jones who’d written about Freud and was using Hamlet as Oh
Nick Cagle
wow.
Gideon Rappaport
A kind of test case about the application of Freudian ideas to literature. And Olivier just got possessed by that. And so the whole movie was cut just to focus on. And the, the problem is that Olivier is such a great actor that he delivers those speeches absolutely magnificently. And they go so far out and beyond the, the idea of Hamlet being in love with his mother, the edible complex. But he kept bringing, but as a director of the movie, he kept bringing it to focus in on that. And it was, it’s, it’s just a, a failure as a result.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. Very interesting. All right, well, today I want to try this thing I, I mentioned earlier, but last week I think about trying to, we may not get all the way through every scene with all of you, but I, I want to give everybody a, a a taste of this, which is a, a, a a little technique that helps us work with Zoom, where I’m gonna ask you to take the script, whether it’s here or, or on the screen, and take the line, look at it, then look directly into the camera so that you’re looking at the person to whom you’re speaking and say the line, don’t look down until you’re finished with the line.
Don’t look down in the middle of the line. So I, I’m just gonna start right here.
I’ll start with the Hamline. So it’s a little bit longer my excellent. Good friends.
How does thou gild and Stern, ah, Rosen Crans good lads. How do you both, and the idea is the people in this case, the two of you, the people who aren’t speaking, look directly at the screen so that you, so that you’re watching the person you you’re listening to. Right.
Don’t go down. Don’t do we all try to do this as an actor, right? We try to be ready with our lines. So as we know the other guy’s getting to the end of his line, we go down so that we can pick up our, I don’t want that. I want you to, to stay with the person on the screen until they’re finished talking. Then go down to your script. It makes, it makes for slow going. But it’s, it’s a way to, particularly in this medium, I mean, this is also kind of old fashioned acting school thing, but particularly in this meeting, medium, it gives us a chance to, to connect. I mean, it’s already hard enough. We’re not in the same room.
We can’t actually look at each other. So that, that’s the, that’s the exercise we’re, we’re all gonna do at some point today.
One other thing I want to do, and this is something I I like to do with directing.
I, I want to give you sort of my, my breakdown of the scenes. My, the, the beats. I, I like to go through and literally draw, you know, a line like through the script, right.
And this just helps me when I’m, again, this is my technique, but I’m in charge. So we’re gonna do it this way, draw a line, and then I like to give a title to the, to the, to the beat or the, that we’re working on in, in the first case
Marcelo Tubert
Tablet. Because that way I can make the note on the tablet. ’cause I have it now up on the, my screen and I can’t do that. And I left my written, printed out script at the doctor’s. So I was just gonna get my tablet and I can make notes on
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah, go ahead. We’ll, we’ll wait for you. Hang on.
Daniel Cordova
I wonder if Marcello’s doctor is is rehearsing While
Nick Cagle
What I was,
Daniel Cordova
while he’s away,
Gideon Rappaport
I hope Marcello isn’t curing people at the same time, or I hope he is curing people if he’s trying.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
There you guys, I’m hear you talking about me. Okay. I’m back
Nick Cagle
g Gideon, can we get your book on Amazon?
Gideon Rappaport
Yes, it
Nick Cagle
is. On all
Gideon Rappaport
Amazon or Barnes and Noble or through any bookstore? You can special order.
Nick Cagle
All right. Thank you. If
Gideon Rappaport
Nick, if you need ISPN or any specific info, just email me and I’ll send back whatever you need.
Nick Cagle
You got It. Perfect. Need to get it. I,
Geoffrey Wade
as, as long as we have a little pause here, I, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll give a, a shout out a shill for Gideon’s other book, which is more general. It’s called Appreciating Shakespeare.
And this one has all the plays in it.
Gideon Rappaport
No, it has
Geoffrey Wade
22 0 22. It has a lot of plays in it.
Gideon Rappaport
And if
Nick Cagle
you order
Gideon Rappaport
it now you get this dust cover instead of the cover list version that
Geoffrey Wade
Jeffrey
Gideon Rappaport
has. ’cause he got an earlier edition. It
Geoffrey Wade
has a terrific be beginning with chapters, like more general things.
What’s so great about Shakespeare? Shakespeare, the Man, what was the state of the art in Shakespeare’s theater? Did people really talk like that? What is poetry for? So there’s, there’s general stuff and then there are
es but there’s a chapter for each of those 22 plays, which obviously doesn’t deal with the, the play in any, anything remotely like the detail that the Hamlet does. But it’s extremely good. You should,
Marcelo Tubert
I’m, I’m all set up.
Geoffrey Wade
Okay, great.
Gideon Rappaport
Thank you Jeffrey. I appreciate that very much. Well,
Geoffrey Wade
that’s good. I mean that’s for, you know, I, I hope, you know, three or four people may actually watch this on YouTube so that
Gideon Rappaport
Yes. Yeah. May
Geoffrey Wade
maybe, maybe we’ll make a, a few sales for you. But it’s, it’s extremely readable. It’s, it is a, a certain degree of academic, but it’s, it’s, it’s readable. It doesn’t, it’s not like taking a, a torturous class in rhetoric. Anyway, anyway, let’s get to this, this, I’m looking at the first Hamlet scene and starting with Guild Stern’s line, my honored Lord. And I call this first beat greeting friends.
You’ll see, I try to make all the, give us an, an active verb in, in all of these and keep ’em fairly short. So greeting friends, and as we have already discussed several times, I firmly believe, and I think it works better if these are really friends who are really greeting each other genuinely.
So if you wanna write that down, if you don’t, we can go over this later. But it gives us a little, a little pathway through.
Then at line 2 55, after line 2 55
hamlet’s, then is doomsday near, that’s the end of the first beat.
The next one is, I kind of cheated here, but I won’t, I wrote discovering why they’re here, plus planting the seed of ambition
that beat goes through.
Marcelo Tubert
Hang on a Second, hang on two seconds.
Geoffrey Wade
Sure
Marcelo Tubert
Why they’re here. And then what was the second half
Geoffrey Wade
Planting the seed of ambition.
And I leave these a little vague because it can be up to you to determine who, who is actually doing this planting of that seed. You might even wanna put ambition in quotation marks.
Good.
This goes through
again, the middle of Hamlet’s line, which starts at 2 87.
No such matter. I will not sort you with the rest of my servants for to speak to you like an honest man I most dreadfully attended. That’s the end, the new beat starts with. But in the beaten path of friendship, what make you at Elsinor?
And I just wrote, and I just put down pressing the question.
By the way, feel free to, you know, we’ll go through these again.
You can use this as a, as an initial guidepost. We can refine them, make them more useful to you. It’s just so that we have active things going on in these beats for us to start with. This is a actorly kind of thing, right? That goes through line three 15 Gilden Stearns, my Lord. We were sent for,
and the next beat starting with, I will tell you why, I will tell you why
my, my little titles are getting a little longer, I’m afraid. I wrote neutralizing them with known facts.
Mm
Nick Cagle
hmm.
Neutralizing,
Geoffrey Wade
Neutralizing.
And then as a sort of parenthetical thing, I wrote Irresistibly leads to Self-examination. And again, this, this incorporates the, the dual, the way this, this speech that begins, you know, I will tell, I’ll tell you why. So, you know, you don’t, you’re not gonna get in trouble with the king and queen. And he lists the, the, the fairly standard symptoms of a, of a melancholic man
Marcelo Tubert
Irresistibly leads to
Geoffrey Wade
Self-examination.
Nick Cagle
And which line does that section go to?
Geoffrey Wade
Well,
Nick Cagle
sort of,
Geoffrey Wade
I think it starts with what a piece of work is a man.
Nick Cagle
Hmm.
Geoffrey Wade
Now that’s a little debate, we’ll, we’ll get into in a minute. But it, it starts with that section as he begins to consider what a, a man is or other a man or capital m man.
So
Gideon Rappaport
the other one ends after
Geoffrey Wade
It, it ends with
Gideon Rappaport
Congregation of vapors.
Geoffrey Wade
Yes.
I just think it gets a little more inner there.
And that’s, that carries through to the end of
the end of that scene.
Marcelo Tubert
And what is, what is that new title there from? What a piece of work is a man?
Geoffrey Wade
Well, that, that’s the, the, the whole thing is neutralizing of with known facts. I just think that at that point in that speech, he, because of the type of person he is, because of his character, he, he slips into a, a, an almost,
I don’t wanna say this.
I, well, I, I I put self-examination, it, it becomes much more interior.
I think the first part of that speech is a little bit of a, of a show. But he, it, it leads him inevitably irresistibly for Hamlet for a person who’s given to that kind of interior life.
Gideon Rappaport
We can also talk about how the content of the first part evokes the, the second part.
Geoffrey Wade
Yes.
Gideon Rappaport
There’s a, there’s a, there’s a melancholy detachment in the first part that’s kind of official.
And then he exemplifies that in this contrast between what he recognizes a man is and how he feels about man, which is negative. And that’s, that’s a combination of what you said of self-examination and performance for their sake. ’cause it’s kind of classic melancholia.
Geoffrey Wade
Exactly. Now, the,
the, the Rose and Crans of Gild and Stern are dead scene which follows.
I only have, the whole thing to me is, is one beat.
And, and this is, this is fun.
Th this is actually the script I used years ago when I got to do this play. And the only thing I’ve written here for the whole thing is getting Hamlet’s message.
I’m not sure I’m entirely happy with that. We might come up with something better, but whatever it is is, it’s really just one one thing that happens in that,
in that scene,
Gideon Rappaport
you Could call it failing to get the message they want.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah.
The, yeah, the, you make it getting hamlet’s message, but then you fail. That’s, that, that’s something that it’s more accurately if you could trying to do something. Yes.
Gideon Rappaport
Got it.
Geoffrey Wade
You can act that. Right.
Gideon Rappaport
Got it. Got it. Okay. I don’t wanna give away any
Geoffrey Wade
Gil
Nick Cagle
Stern succeeds.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah, there’s,
Nick Cagle
there are
Geoffrey Wade
many variations in these, these are just things, things to get us going. And, and let me just give you this then in the last scene, the, the, the recorder scene.
Marcelo Tubert
Hang on just a second.
Geoffrey Wade
Sure.
Marcelo Tubert
Okay,
Geoffrey Wade
So starting at the top, which is line 3 23 about, I think Gilden Stern’s line. Good. My Lord vouch, save me a word with you, which is where we’re starting the scene. I call what’s, what’s coming now determining the atmosphere, which is true for all the characters, right? Hamlet’s trying to determine something. Why are they here? He doesn’t know why they’re here.
There is a weird, as we’ve again said many times, a weird charged atmosphere overall, the two Rosen and Gilden stern have been given a, a job to do. But they’re dealing with a guy who seems, you know, high as a kite. And so I just think the beginning determining atmosphere, it’s like, you know, walking into a room and what’s the temperature of the room? What’s going on here? How can I, how can I do what I’m supposed to do?
That’s that, that just goes through line 3 52, 3 53 Hamlet’s speech. Or rather, as you say, my mother, therefore no more. But to the matter, my mother, you say starting with Rosecrans line, Rosecrans is line. Then thus she says, I call this next beat delivering the message.
This is where you actually get to say what you’ve been charged with.
That’s a pretty short one because it ends with Hamlet’s line. Have you any further trade with us?
I mean, you’ve delivered the message.
Nick Cagle
Hmm. So
Geoffrey Wade
that beat is fulfilled. Have you any further trade with us?
Marcelo Tubert
Yes. What is that line number?
Geoffrey Wade
That would be 360 2
Marcelo Tubert
Y. Yes. Got it.
Geoffrey Wade
Then starting with Rosen Kranz line, my Lord, you once did love me. I’ve just called this pressing the case. You might be able to come up with a better the case name for it. But it’s, it’s the, again, the, the tone shifts. It becomes more personal.
The the first part, you know, delivering the message. Here’s the message from that we’ve been told to give you, he keeps dicking around with you. It’s like, come on man, let, let, let’s, let’s talk as, as old friends or however you wanna do it. But I call it pressing the case because there is a slight shift there
Gideon Rappaport
And, and a shift from Gilden Stern to Rosencrantz.
Geoffrey Wade
Yes, exactly. Gild Stern, who’s who I think we’re determining as we go along as sort of slightly more fact-based or more, he’s more the, the, the head and Rosecrans is throughout a little more, the, the heart, a little more emotional.
So there’s pressing the case for Rosecrans, but also Hamlet begins to press his case. ’cause he really knows, everybody’s determined where everybody stands at this point.
I only have, I have that going through Hamlet’s line line 3 72, I serve oil, the grass grows, the proverb is something musty.
Again, we could almost think of that as the end of the scene, but now we have a whole new beat. Oh, the recorders. Let me see one, and I call this from this until the end of the scene taking command, because Hamlet is now fully in charge. He’s, he’s toying with these two, like a, a cat with a couple of really wounded, pathetic mice. He’s, there’s no more testing the atmosphere. There’s no one more wondering where people stand.
He, he’s, he’s taking command as himself. He’s gonna put them in their place.
There’s no more question about where everybody stands in everybody’s regard anyway, taking command
and, you know, taking command can involve all kinds of things. It can be putting them down. It can be, you know, dismissing them. It can be physically hitting them as I think I I told you I stole from N Nicole Williamson. I don’t know. I, I should see if that one’s on,
you know, on YouTube or something.
Anyway, so that’s how I’ve broken these down.
It’s a little something to guide us.
Now
everybody’s had a chance at every role.
So I am inclined to go back to our, our, our assignments the first time through. Okay. Which, if that’s okay with you all.
Marcelo Tubert
Great.
Geoffrey Wade
And that would be
Marcelo Tubert
Hamlet? I was doing Hamlet,
Geoffrey Wade
yes. Marcelo is Hamlet,
Nick Cagle
Rosen Kranz.
Geoffrey Wade
Nick is Rosen, Kranz and Dan as Gilden Stern.
So let’s just try this. I’m going to actually get off completely. I’m gonna close down my, my video camera so you guys can just deal with each other.
Marcelo Tubert
I’ll and Do this, this exercise, right?
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. We’re gonna do this exercise now. Sorry. We’ll do this exercise now. And you know, if I think you’re beginning to wander, I’ll, I’ll stop. You know, if, if I see your eyes not staying engaged with each other, all, all the way through, I’ll, I’ll stop you and, and, and we’ll go back and pick it up,
see what you think. I’m not gonna try to prejudge it. It gives you time to really think about what you’re saying and say it without an, an obligation to go quickly or to pick up your cues or anything or anything like that. Right. The, the whole point of it is to really en enjoy these words. So I’m going to go off camera, but I will be listening and still have my audio on.
So let’s all take a breath and shake shoulders out and start
Daniel Cordova
my honored Lord,
Nick Cagle
My most dear Lord.
Marcelo Tubert
My excellent good friends. How does thou gilded, stern, ah, rose and krantz good lads. How do you both
Nick Cagle
As the indifferent children of the earth,
Daniel Cordova
Happy that we are not over happy On fortune’s cap. We are not the very button.
Geoffrey Wade
Right. I’m gonna stop. I’m gonna stop you Dan.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
You’re very thoughtfully going, going down to pick up the last
Daniel Cordova
Yeah,
Geoffrey Wade
I can just see your eyes going down. It’s, it’s a very good start by the way, this is a very difficult exercise. So let, let’s do, is it happy in that I’m not over happy? Yeah.
Daniel Cordova
Okay.
Geoffrey Wade
Yep.
Daniel Cordova
Happy in that we are not over happy on fortune’s cap. We are not the very button
Marcelo Tubert
Nor the soles of her shoes,
Daniel Cordova
Neither my Lord.
Marcelo Tubert
Then you live about her waist or in the middle of her favors.
Nick Cagle
Sorry, can we go back? I think we, I I missed a line and then we’ve switched.
Marcelo Tubert
Oh, that was my, my my mistake.
Nick Cagle
No problem. No problem. Yeah,
Geoffrey Wade
That, that was e Excellent Dan, way to go. Yeah, it’s very hard. Let’s do happy and then we are not over happy. Sure.
Daniel Cordova
Happy in that we are not over happy on fortune’s cap. We are not the very button
Marcelo Tubert
Nor the soles of her shoes,
Nick Cagle
Neither my Lord.
Marcelo Tubert
Then you live about her waist or in the middle of her favors.
Daniel Cordova
Faith, her private, we
Marcelo Tubert
In the secret parts of Fortune. Oh, most true. She’s a trumpet.
What news?
Nick Cagle
None. My Lord. But that the world’s grown, honest
Marcelo Tubert
Then is doomsday near. But your new that your news is not true.
Let me question, let me question more in particular.
What have you my good friends deserve that the hand of fortune that sends you, I can’t get this whole piece.
Geoffrey Wade
You, it’s okay if you can only pick up four words, that’s fine.
Marcelo Tubert
That’s it. Okay. That’s,
Geoffrey Wade
that’s all. I’m not asking you to, to do a memorized thing just as much as you can get and then go back
Marcelo Tubert
and then come back. This from the top.
Geoffrey Wade
It’s really good. Yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
Then doomsday is near, but your news is not true.
Let me question more in particular.
What have you my good friends deserve that deserve that? The hands of fortune that she sends you to prison. Either
Daniel Cordova
Prison. My lord.
Marcelo Tubert
SA prison
Nick Cagle
Then is the world one,
Marcelo Tubert
A goodly one in which there are many confines, wards and dungeons, Denmark being one of the worst?
Nick Cagle
We think not so my Lord.
Marcelo Tubert
Why then? There’s none to you.
For there is for, there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
Oh, makes it so to me it is a prison.
Nick Cagle
Why then your ambition makes it one,
Geoffrey Wade
it
Nick Cagle
is too narrow for your mind.
Marcelo Tubert
Oh God. I could be bound in a nutshell and count myself the king of infinite space. Were not that I have bad dreams,
Daniel Cordova
Which dreams indeed are ambition
for the very substance of a dream.
Sorry, which dreams indeed are ambition for the very substance of the ambitious is merely the shadow of a dream.
Marcelo Tubert
A dream itself is, but a shadow
Nick Cagle
Truly. And I hold ambition of so airy and light, a quality that it is, but a shadow’s shadow
Marcelo Tubert
Then are our beggars bodies and our mon and our monarchs and outstretched heroes.
The beggars shadow, shall we to the court or by my fa I cannot reason
Geoffrey Wade
Just, I’m sorry, one, one more time through that one Marcela. That’s a tough one.
Marcelo Tubert
Then our, then our, our beggars bodies
and our mon then our, our beggars bodies and our monarchs and outstretch heroes. Beggar outstretched heroes. The beggar shadow shall read to the court for by my Faye, I cannot for by my Faye, I cannot reason.
Nick Cagle
We’ll wait upon you, We
Daniel Cordova
wait upon you.
Marcelo Tubert
No such matter.
I will not sort you with the rest of my servants or to speak to you like an honest man.
I am most dreadfully attended.
But in the but in the beaten way of friendship.
What make you at Elseum
Nick Cagle
To visit you, my lord, no other occasion
Marcelo Tubert
Beggar that I am and even poor. And thanks, but I thank you.
But I thank you and sure dear friends, my thanks.
My thanks are too dear.
My thanks are too dear.
My my thanks are too dear. Hey, Benny, were you sent for?
Is it your own incline?
Is it free visitation?
Come, come deal justly with me.
Come, come nay speak.
Daniel Cordova
What should we say? My Lord,
Marcelo Tubert
Anything but to the purpose you were set for.
And there’s kind of a confession in your looks, which are, which are modest, have not craft enough to color. Wanna do that again? Yeah,
Geoffrey Wade
Do it again. It’s great. Do it. This is going extremely well, guys. I just wanna reassure you the, the, the way the text is emerging, but really take your time. Even if you only get two or three words so that you, you can deliver right to them. And you guys are doing a great job of watching him. The way you’re all watching each other is great. It’s very generous and difficult. So start that again.
Marcelo Tubert
Can You cue me in please?
Daniel Cordova
Yeah, I got
Geoffrey Wade
it.
Daniel Cordova
What should we say, my Lord?
Marcelo Tubert
Anything but to the purpose you were sent for, and there is a kind of confession in your looks, which modest, there is a kind of confession in your looks, which your modesty have not craft enough to color.
I know the good queen, the good king and queen have sent for you
Nick Cagle
To what end my Lord
Marcelo Tubert
That you must teach me.
Let me conjure, but let me conjure you by the rights of our fellowship, by the constancy of our youth, by the obligation of our ever preserved love
and by what? More dear, a better proposer. And and what by more dear, a better proposer can charge you with all, be even and direct with me. Whether be even and direct with me. Good. Whether you were sinful or not,
Nick Cagle
but say, you
Marcelo Tubert
may I have an eye of you. If you love me, hold that off
Daniel Cordova
my Lord.
Nick Cagle
Lord,
Daniel Cordova
we were sent for
Marcelo Tubert
I will tell you why.
So shall my anticipation prevent your discovery
and your secrecy to the king and queen m move better.
I have of late, but I know where, where
I have of late, but therefore I know not lost all mym foregone, all foregone, all custom of exercise.
And indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame here seems to me a sterile, sterile promontory.
This most, this most excellent canopy. The air, look you look you this brave or hanging firmament,
this majestic roof threaded with golden fire.
It appears why it appears nothing to me, but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapors.
What a piece of, what a piece of work is, man.
How noble in reason, how infinite in faculties
inform and moving, how express and admirable in action, how, like an angel in apprehension, how like a God, the beauty of the world, the paragon of abandon.
And yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust?
Man delights. Not me.
No, no woman neither.
Oh, well, while you’re smiling, you seem to say so.
Nick Cagle
My Lord, there was no such stuff in my thoughts.
Marcelo Tubert
Why did you laugh then
when I said a man delights not me
Nick Cagle
To think my Lord,
if you delight not in man,
what lentin entertainment, the players shall receive from you,
we coded them on the way. And hither, are they come and hither? Are they coming to offer you service?
Geoffrey Wade
Good, good guys. It’s, it’s difficult, isn’t it? But yeah,
Marcelo Tubert
It’s so interesting.
Geoffrey Wade
It’s so interesting. And I think just from listening to that, the, it it forces you to do what we’re always trying to do, which is pick out operative words. Those are the words, you know, when you’re looking at them, those are the ones you remember. There was one in particular, just as an example, Monticello, and you said there’s a kind of confession in your looks, you know, it just naturally emerged in this wonderful, it, it, it was just great, you know?
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah. It, you know, it, it’s so interesting too in this speech of the, when I will tell you why social, my anticipation through that and as I went on and on, there was some emotional thing that stirred in me that was unexpected and wonderful.
Geoffrey Wade
This, this is wonderful. This is wonderful. And I’m so glad you said that. ’cause I, I’m sure everyone else did. I certainly picked up that that was happening. And it 100% confirms my belief that if you, if you get the thoughts right, the emotions will come unbidden. I mean, you could hardly get through that speech
Marcelo Tubert
Unbidden. I mean, it was like,
Geoffrey Wade
And, and it’s, it’s like magic. So that’s wonderful that you said it and, and you discovered it because it’s something that I have
Marcelo Tubert
found. It came, it came so unexpectedly and out of left field.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
I cannot tell you how often I’ve worked with student actors who don’t know what to feel or how to say something until they understand exactly what the words mean and, and focus. And then it comes and, and it’s magic.
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah. I mean, here he is, right? We’re, he starts talking about the, the earth, the, the air, the things around him and how overwhelming the whole thing is. And, and, and the, the world is a beautiful place because of, of the, it just, It’s
Geoffrey Wade
a, a great piece of writing the way it progresses from, I, I’m, I’m sure literary people can make a better, you know, prey of how it proceeds from, from, from the general to the specific. But that’s also what, what I, what I said about the way he starts in this very conventional description of melancholy, you know, sort of disease almost.
And, and it actually begins to affect him. He, he turns more and more inner. He goes from, from the world and, and the sky to, you know what this, look at this amazing masterpiece of, of everything of the this
Marcelo Tubert
I’m the
Geoffrey Wade
masterpiece of the universe,
Marcelo Tubert
Right? And it feeds into his, you see his melancholy then? Yeah. You see the mely,
Geoffrey Wade
Then you see actual melancholy. Yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
And Then, and then they laugh. They’re not getting it
Marcelo Tubert
Like a what the fuck, what
Geoffrey Wade
is fuck
Marcelo Tubert
wrong with you?
Geoffrey Wade
Exactly. Which again is another piece of, of, you know, drama of, of that’s great writing, because that’s
Marcelo Tubert
the
Geoffrey Wade
kind of thing that, that’s the kind of thing that endears us to characters.
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah. Because then what it hit me about, like, what is wrong with you, wrong with you, with, you know, he’s, he’s been in this thing and then he laughed, thought, what the fuck? Yeah, that struck me. Yeah.
Daniel Cordova
I, i I just wanna say also I think this exercise not only informs the individual connecting with the words, it informs the, the relationship. Because looking at the eyes of the speakers, looking in marcello’s eyes,
Geoffrey Wade
his
Daniel Cordova
words impacted me so much more than when we would do it. You know, just read through. And a lot of the time, like, you know, Jeffrey would say, we’re looking for our next line. We’re not really listening to him. We’re not really connecting. We’re in this exercise even as the listener to, to something. You’re getting so much more out of, out of the scene.
Geoffrey Wade
Great. I I I am I am delighted that this is working for you. E especially, I mean, I, I I can’t tell you how happy you’re, you’re as it was happening Marcelo, I was thinking, oh, that’s you. I’ll be able to talk about, you know, my,
Marcelo Tubert
yeah. And, and
Geoffrey Wade
The secret it’s, anyway,
Marcelo Tubert
The other thing that struck me too about this exercise is that it is an exercise that, I think you mentioned it before in trust.
In trust in meaning that if you only get through, ’cause I was so worried, I was trying to get the whole line to get the whole through thought. But it’s not that, it’s
Geoffrey Wade
not That at All.
Marcelo Tubert
That’s not it. So that I was started picking up two or three words only and then coming back down and still the stuff stayed with me. And I, a a as we, as we moved through this thing, I, I, I think I trusted more and more, which then allowed this moment to happen unexpectedly. Ms. Great.
Gideon Rappaport
Okay,
Geoffrey Wade
you
Gideon Rappaport
Guys, you’re having a lot of fun. And now I’m gonna drop the hammer a little
Geoffrey Wade
bit.
Marcelo Tubert
Good, good.
Geoffrey Wade
Okay.
Gideon Rappaport
Marcello, you, you are, you got the exercise and it worked in the way Jeffrey wants, but you are losing the precision of the words between seeing what they say and saying them. So for example, you changed shoe to shoes.
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah, I had several of those, which I realized when I went back to the
Gideon Rappaport
Right. You said free visitation instead of a free visitation. You left out the nay, then you said exercises, you said exercise,
Geoffrey Wade
exercise
Gideon Rappaport
instead of exercises. So I just, it’s just a general note about those examples, how tempting it is for the mind
Nick Cagle
to
Gideon Rappaport
jump on. The word we think must be there rather than the actual word that’s there. And when you break it up like this Yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
It,
Gideon Rappaport
it reveals itself.
Marcelo Tubert
So Gideon, yes. Not to, not to fight you because I, I don’t ever fight. I just, and I and, and not, but
Gideon Rappaport
Okay.
Marcelo Tubert
Is I think in, in, in, in the spirit of the exercise.
Gideon Rappaport
Yes.
Marcelo Tubert
Because if, if I’m gonna be, we’re gonna just now say we’re gonna do it again, but not that exercise. I’m going to be much more careful as I’m reading through this to make sure that I honor the words as written. But I would less worried about it. Not not worried, but less worried about it in trying to stay with the exercise.
Gideon Rappaport
I completely
Marcelo Tubert
Bringing out other, other things.
Gideon Rappaport
I completely understand. I support you. I’m not complaining. I just want you to know that that was happening. That’s all
Marcelo Tubert
you Were bringing down the hammer.
Gideon Rappaport
Yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
Thanks Man.
Gideon Rappaport
And there are a couple other things I wanted to say from, from hearing this line 2 86 is
two Yeah. Gold grants and Gilson, both of them. So I think, I think Daniel said, we’ll wait upon you and I think Nick said we’ll wait upon you. And neither of those is right.
Daniel Cordova
It should be the weight.
Gideon Rappaport
You have to hit the weight. You have to hit the weight.
Marcelo Tubert
Yes.
Gideon Rappaport
And then the one other one was 3 42. That was who was that Rosencrantz?
Here, there. No. We’ll,
Geoffrey Wade
We coded them on the way
Gideon Rappaport
To offer you service. Mm.
Nick Cagle
Yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
I want to hear offer and service and not you.
Nick Cagle
I hit the pronoun.
Gideon Rappaport
Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah.
Nick Cagle
Okay,
Gideon Rappaport
Good. That’s it.
Marcelo Tubert
Can you
Geoffrey Wade
hang,
Marcelo Tubert
hang on just a second ’cause I wanna make this note. What line was that, Gideon?
Gideon Rappaport
Which one?
Marcelo Tubert
The last one.
Gideon Rappaport
Oh 3 42 either. Are they coming to offer you service? So
Marcelo Tubert
3 42.
Gideon Rappaport
It’s A krants line.
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah, I just wanna, because when I do rose krants, I want have that. Yeah, good. 3 42. Hang on two seconds here.
Gideon Rappaport
See the last line of this, of the seeing of the b of the beat.
Marcelo Tubert
So you wanna hear offer,
Geoffrey Wade
Offer and service
Gideon Rappaport
Offer in service, not you.
Marcelo Tubert
Yes. Well, of course, you
Daniel Cordova
know,
Geoffrey Wade
I I I have a, and and again, this, I’m not, I, I realize the, the nature of the exercise, but I still wanna pick out a couple of things. This would be around, this is Rosen Kranz and Gilden Stern around line 2 52.
2 51 and two 50. So Hamlet, then you live about her waist are in the middle of her favors.
I think we,
Marcelo Tubert
Yes, yes. I think
Geoffrey Wade
We need to lift middle a little bit so that you then gilden need to lift privates.
Gideon Rappaport
Yes.
Geoffrey Wade
Right.
Gideon Rappaport
I agree. And you
Marcelo Tubert
live, I have,
Gideon Rappaport
I have one other thing where antithesis will help too. And it’s, it’s there. It’s line 2 82.
Marcelo Tubert
Can we just go back to that line? Sure. Then, then you live about her waist or is the, or an or I mean, you, you live about her waist.
That
Geoffrey Wade
is the, or is as if you were saying that is to say
Marcelo Tubert
That is to say the middle. Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
It’s not a different thing. It’s,
Marcelo Tubert
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lemme
Geoffrey Wade
give you another phrase for it.
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
And favors is the complex word. Right. So it means her generosity to you, but it also means the way she looks or the way she’s shaped.
Right. So, so it becomes a sexual innuendo
Geoffrey Wade
The way boys do. And what was the, what was the antithesis you wanted to
Gideon Rappaport
Yes, line 2 82
Marcelo, this was giving you trouble. And I think the reason is you want to bring out the antithesis between bodies and shadows. The, the bodies cast shadows.
Marcelo Tubert
Yes.
Gideon Rappaport
So A shadows shadow. So then he concludes then are our beggars physical bodies and our monarchs and outstretch heroes are the beggars shadows. So it’s, it’s an inversion, right? The, the beggars and the monarchs and outstretch heroes are opposites. The lowest and the highest, and the lowest turn out to be bodies, and the highest turn out to be merely shadows.
Marcelo Tubert
So it’s, it, it’s then our, our beggars, then our, our beggars bodies and our monarchs and outstretched heroes. The beggars shadow.
Gideon Rappaport
Yes. So you are bringing out bodies versus shadows,
Marcelo Tubert
The bringing out bodies, the beggars bodies, the heroes, the beggars shadows.
Gideon Rappaport
Yes. So in, in other words, I don’t wanna hear beggars as if it were possessive. It’s not the bodies of the beggar.
Marcelo Tubert
No, It’s the beggars bodies
Gideon Rappaport
Then are our beg our beggars, our bodies and our heroes are their shadows
Marcelo Tubert
Beggar’s bodies, and our monarchs not stretch heroes. The beggars shadows.
Gideon Rappaport
Yes. There you go. Okay.
Nick Cagle
I have a question regarding the exercise.
Geoffrey Wade
Sure.
Nick Cagle
For me, are you guys positioning, like, when I do this, it’s impossible for me to con connect with the other actors because all I’m doing is saying a line to a green dot, and I’ve moved you guys over to the side because in order for me to connect with the other actors, I can’t look at the camera at the same time.
Marcelo Tubert
I agree. That’s
Nick Cagle
The
Marcelo Tubert
difficulty.
Nick Cagle
What this is doing for me is removing, it’s, it’s showing me what not to do, but making it, I’m not sure it’s, it’s helping me connect with the words or with the actors. So should I move my picture to another location or do you have, have you set up the actors right in the middle, Dan or
Marcelo Tubert
I, I, you know, I have, just to piggy piggyback on that, I have the same deal because basically I’m reading to the green dot, and then when you guys are talking to me and I’m trying to connect with you, I am not, I have it also to the side. So I am going mostly auditory.
Nick Cagle
That’s what’s it’s helping with auditory, but, but making but
Marcelo Tubert
removing
Nick Cagle
connection
Marcelo Tubert
entirely. I’m exactly there with you on that.
Geoffrey Wade
Hmm.
Nick Cagle
That’s just what I was noticing.
Daniel Cordova
So for me, I have the screen with all of the windows as the main screen for me and the text in a smaller window to the right that I scroll up and down.
But when I’m speaking, I’m looking into the dot, right? Yeah. And then when I’m not speaking, I’m trying to focus on the eyes of the speaker.
Nick Cagle
Oh, okay. That’s what, that’s a good idea. That’s a good idea. All right. Because then you can look at the, you look at
Marcelo Tubert
That
Daniel Cordova
person, it feels like that person’s speaking to me. ’cause they’re looking at the dot.
Nick Cagle
Yeah. ’cause I, I keep addressing the dot and listening to you guys, but I’m like, I have no idea what you’re doing. So
Marcelo Tubert
I
Gideon Rappaport
No Dan Daniel’s right. For this exercise. You’ve got to be looking at them when they’re talking. Then look at your lines, then speak to
Nick Cagle
Got it.
Geoffrey Wade
Dot, that’s, that’s
Nick Cagle
exactly
Geoffrey Wade
Right. Thank you.
Nick Cagle
That clarifies It. Yes.
Marcelo Tubert
That helps me too, Nick.
Nick Cagle
All Right.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah,
Nick Cagle
that’s all I needed. Thank you.
Geoffrey Wade
Okay. Just, just one other thing. And this, this is a kind of an acting note. This is a, a choice I would make Marcello at line two 90.
You can take it or leave it.
The, the beginning of this beat. So this is line two 90, but in the beaten path of friendship, what make you at Elsinore?
It, it is the beginning of this, this new beat that we have called
Marcelo Tubert
Pressing the Question,
Geoffrey Wade
pressing the question. And for my money, I’d like it if it were more upbeat or if, if there was the feeling of, of a new energy of, I don’t, I’m not exactly sure how to express this, but with with no, no added suspicion or,
Marcelo Tubert
yeah, No, yeah. Just, Hey, whatcha
Geoffrey Wade
okay? Okay. So we’re, we’re, we’re, we’re done bantering about, about girls in their private,
Marcelo Tubert
what’s going on?
Geoffrey Wade
That was funny. So what are you guys doing here? Yeah. So that we have somewhere to go, right?
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah. Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
Again, this is a, this is a, it’s an acting thing. And and these are plays. Yeah. If you’re too suspicious at the beginning, you got nowhere to go.
And, and as I as I’ve said, I think now a number of times, the longer the longer character can put off his or her discovery, the the better.
You know, the longer you can be willing to live in insecurity or unsureness, particularly when you have a whole scene now. I mean, we’ve got,
Marcelo Tubert
oh, I like that
Geoffrey Wade
you’re gonna ask them another two times. Now. Come on guys, you know, and but the, the third time you’re gonna conjure them by these, you know, three or four different things by our youth, by the
Marcelo Tubert
Friendship. What? But the way of friendship, what makes you to el? No.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. Yeah. What are you doing here? Good, good. To keep that casual.
I I, I wanna give everybody a, a, a chance at this before today.
So I’m, I’m not gonna go through.
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah. Why don’t we switch, do this first scene again And just
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. Let’s, let’s do the first scene again with, with, let’s see. The second group was Dan is Hamlet. Marcelo is Rosen Kranz, and Nick is Gilden Stern, right?
Marcelo Tubert
Sure.
Geoffrey Wade
Let’s, let’s try it and see what we discovered. Now that we’ve had notes and things, I, I’ll go away Again, try to do that technique of when you’re speaking, you actually have to, I’m, I’m, you have to look at the, at the camera. Okay.
Nick Cagle
It’s
Geoffrey Wade
when you’re listening that you need to be looking at the person. Right. And,
Nick Cagle
got it.
Marcelo Tubert
I really hate to look into other actor’s eyes when I’m on stage, you know,
Daniel Cordova
Because you don’t know what’s gonna happen, right? Because
Geoffrey Wade
that’s, I’m
Daniel Cordova
gonna forget My
Marcelo Tubert
Distracting,
Nick Cagle
And,
Geoffrey Wade
and you’ve all seen how hard it is now, there’ll be long pauses when I mean, you suddenly can’t remember. Oh, is that my line? Then you can look down. But also, you know, it’s that acting exercise of you don’t speak until you’ve received the energy from the other person. Anyway, it, it really is going very well. So, I’m gonna go away. I’m gonna stay on audio though, and keep my eye on you. And let’s start again with Nick. Start us off.
Nick Cagle
My honored Lord,
Marcelo Tubert
My most dear Lord.
Daniel Cordova
My excellent good friends. How dust gild and stern, ah, Rosen Krantz good lads. How do you both
Marcelo Tubert
As, as the indifferent children of the earth,
Nick Cagle
Happy That we are not over happy on fortune’s cap.
We are not the very button
Daniel Cordova
Nor the souls of her shoe,
Marcelo Tubert
Neither my Lord.
Daniel Cordova
Then you live about her waist or in the middle of her favors
Nick Cagle
Faith, her privates, who faith her privates, we
Daniel Cordova
In the secret parts of fortune, almost true. She is a trumpet. What news,
Marcelo Tubert
Not my Lord, but that the world’s grown. Not my Lord, but that the world’s Gideon is coming into my, here we go. I’m sorry.
None my Lord. But that the world’s grown, honest
Daniel Cordova
Then is doomsday mi. But your news is not true.
Let me question you more in particular.
What have you, my good friends deserved at the hands of fortune that she sends you to?
Geoffrey Wade
Good, good. Start. Start That speech over. Yeah. Yeah. And be willing, be willing to not look down
Daniel Cordova
Boss. Yeah,
Geoffrey Wade
it’s really Good. Carry on
Daniel Cordova
Then. Is doomsday in the air? But your news is not true. Let me question you more in particular.
What have you, my good friends deserved at the hands of fortune that she sends you to prison? Hither
Nick Cagle
Prison. My lord.
Daniel Cordova
Denmarks a prison
Marcelo Tubert
That is the world one,
Daniel Cordova
A goodly one in which there are many confines, wards and dungeons, Denmark being one of the worst.
Marcelo Tubert
We think not so my Lord.
Daniel Cordova
Why then is none to you? Well, there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so to me it is a prison.
Marcelo Tubert
Why? Then your ambition makes it one, it’s too narrow for your mind.
Daniel Cordova
Oh God. I could be,
oh God, I could be bounded in a nutshell and call myself king of infinite space. Were it not that I have bad dreams,
Nick Cagle
Which dreams indeed are ambition
for the very substance of the ambition, excuse me, for the very substance of the ambitious is merely the shadow of a dream.
Daniel Cordova
A dream itself is, but a shadow
Marcelo Tubert
Truly. And I hold ambition so airy and light, a quality that it is, but a shadows shadow.
Daniel Cordova
Then our, our beggars bodies and our monarchs and outstretched heroes. The beggars shadows, shall we to the court for by my fate, I cannot reason
Nick Cagle
We’ll wait upon you.
Daniel Cordova
No such matter. I will not sort you with the rest of my servants for to speak to you like an honest man.
I am most dreadfully attended,
but in the beaten way of friendship.
What make you at Elsinore?
Geoffrey Wade
Start again. Do that speech again.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
No such matter.
I will not sort you with the rest of my servants for, to speak to you like an honest man. I am most dreadfully attended, but in the beaten way of friendship. What make you at Elsinor
Marcelo Tubert
To visit you? My lord. No other occasion,
Daniel Cordova
Bigger than I am. I am even poor in thanks. But I thank you and sure dear friends, my thanks are too dear a Hany, were you not sent for, is it your own inclining?
Is it a free visitation?
Come, come deal justly with me.
Come, come nay speak.
Nick Cagle
Watch. What should we say? My Lord?
Daniel Cordova
Anything but to the purpose you were sent for, and there is a kind of confession in your looks, which your modesty have not craft enough to color. Lemme try that again.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah.
Daniel Cordova
Anything but to the purpose you were sent for, and there is a kind of confession in your looks, which your modesty have not craft enough to color.
Geoffrey Wade
I’m gonna, I’m gonna stop you.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
Do it, do it again.
Daniel Cordova
Okay.
Geoffrey Wade
Take Dan. Just take a little of the pressure off yourself.
Daniel Cordova
Okay.
Geoffrey Wade
Just, just allow this to be a little more conversational.
Daniel Cordova
Okay.
Geoffrey Wade
You’re Working harder than you have to.
Daniel Cordova
Okay.
Geoffrey Wade
Okay.
Daniel Cordova
Can, can you do the what should we say, my Lord? Yes.
Geoffrey Wade
Gilden stern. Yeah. What should we say? My Lord,
Nick Cagle
what should we say? My Lord?
Daniel Cordova
Anything but to the purpose you were sent for, and there is a kind of confession in your looks, which your monies have not craft enough to color. I know the good king and queen have sent for you
Marcelo Tubert
To what end my Lord
Daniel Cordova
That you must teach me, but let me conjure you by the rights of our fellowship
Geoffrey Wade
Once again.
Daniel Cordova
Okay.
Geoffrey Wade
You were, you read that whole line.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
To what end?
Daniel Cordova
Go ahead. Go ahead.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. Marcel, give him the line To what? End my Lord,
Marcelo Tubert
To what? End my Lord.
Daniel Cordova
That you must teach me
Geoffrey Wade
good.
Daniel Cordova
But let me con you by the rights of our fellowship, by the constancy of our youth, by the obligation of our ever preserved love, and
hang on, this is a tough phrase.
Geoffrey Wade
Just a couple words at a time.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah. And by what more dear a better proposer can charge you with all.
Marcelo Tubert
Well, You know, you know what happens? Just, I’m feeling your pain, Dan, because what happens is we wanna connect all the thought of that line. But in this exercise, I, I do, like Jeff is saying, I think just take the pressure off and just say a little, even though it may not make
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
Total sense because you’re breaking it up. It It, yeah.
Daniel Cordova
Just that, that one thing is so awkward to me by what? More dear, a better proposer can charge you with all. But I’m gonna get it. Don’t worry. I’ll just take it one piece at a time.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. It, it’s, there’s a, there’s a little break after dear. There’s a little break after proposer.
Gideon Rappaport
Can I help with, can I help with meaning a little bit maybe.
Daniel Cordova
Sure.
Marcelo Tubert
Always.
Gideon Rappaport
By what more valuable a better proposer can charge you with by what? Better argument of someone who argues better than I do can, can request it of you.
Daniel Cordova
Okay.
Gideon Rappaport
Does that make sense?
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
So dear means precious, right? Valuable in this case, more valuable thing than rights of fellowship. Competency of youth, obligation of love. Or something even more valuable that I could persuade you with.
Daniel Cordova
Okay. Yeah. That’s great.
Gideon Rappaport
Or someone better Than me could persuade you.
Geoffrey Wade
Good?
Gideon Rappaport
Yes.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. Yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
Okay.
Marcelo Tubert
Well, I’ll lead you in.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah. Thank you.
Geoffrey Wade
What end? Yes.
Marcelo Tubert
To what end my Lord
Daniel Cordova
that you must teach me. But let me con you by the rights of our fellowship, by the constancy of our youth, by the obligation of our ever preserved love, and by what? More dear a better proposer can charge you with all, be even and direct with me.
Whether you were sent for or no
Marcelo Tubert
what? Say you
Daniel Cordova
nay than I have an eye of you. If you love me, hold. Not off
Nick Cagle
My Lord. We were sent for
Daniel Cordova
I will tell you why. So shall my anticipation prevent your discovery and your secrecy to the king and queen. Molt. No feather
I have of late.
And wherefore I know, not lost all my mirth,
forgotten all custom of exercises. And indeed, it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame the earth seems to me a sterile promontory,
this most excellent canopy. The air, look you, this brave ore hanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire.
Why? It appears nothing to me, but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapor.
What a piece of work is, man.
How noble, in reason, how infinite in faculties informed and moving, how expressed and admirable in action. How, like an angel, an apprehension, how like a God, the paragon of animals,
the beauty of the world, the paragon of animals.
And yet to me, what is this quintes of dust?
Man delights, not me.
No. Nor a woman. Neither though by you’re smiling, you seem to say So.
Nick Cagle
Rose Krantz. Is
Marcelo Tubert
that me, my Lord?
Geoffrey Wade
Yes. Yes.
Marcelo Tubert
I’m sorry. That was, I had already, my Lord. There was no such stuff in my thoughts.
Daniel Cordova
Why did you laugh then when I said, man, the delight’s not me
Marcelo Tubert
To think, my Lord, if you delight not in man, what lent an entertainment the players shall receive from you. We coded the, we coded them on the way. And hither and hither. Are they coming to offer your services, offer you services
Geoffrey Wade
One more time to offer you service.
Marcelo Tubert
Service, yes.
I, I think my Lord, if you delight not in man,
what lent in entertainment, the players shall receive from you.
We coded them on the way.
And here are they coming to offer you service.
Geoffrey Wade
That’s it. Good.
Here we are. We’re back. It’s hard. It’s
Daniel Cordova
tough.
Geoffrey Wade
You’re, you’re next Nick.
Nick Cagle
I, I see the value and hate it at the same time.
Geoffrey Wade
It’s, I I just wanna, I just wanna say a couple of things, Dan. What’s, what’s wonderful is the way operative words are emerging and, and words have,
Daniel Cordova
I’m with you. I just have to plug in my computer before it
Geoffrey Wade
die.
Daniel Cordova
Okay? And I’m listening.
Geoffrey Wade
Can you hear me okay? Yeah.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
The way things have have weight and color, it’s, it’s great. It’s because, because of the way we’re going through it.
Who, who has the line?
Well, all right. A another general note before I find this exact thing.
These questions that Hamlet has for the lads where you sent forward, is it a free visitation, da da da. There’s, there’s a, a number of questions like that.
And I think there’s another that’s, that’s not really a question. Well, it is, it’s a question yourself. What, what is this ants of dust? I think particularly in the, as we go through it, but particularly in the context of this exercise, you can make those real questions and wait for an answer. Wait for an answer.
You know, maybe if, if you’re saying it, come off the camera and have a look at them, are you gonna say anything? Because on stage, I think this is great fun. They’re, they’re not rhetorical questions. They’re real questions. And these two guys are not able to answer. They’re not able to come up with anything which we’ll learn later. You know, you know,
Daniel Cordova
So when you’re talking about
Geoffrey Wade
that Rhetorical questions,
Daniel Cordova
When you’re talking about that, you’re talking about what have you deserved that fortune sends you to prison? That question. Yeah. There’s a couple of those, right,
Geoffrey Wade
Right from the start. He does have 27 questions in here.
Daniel Cordova
What make you at Elsinore?
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. Why, what, why? Whatcha you guys doing?
Daniel Cordova
Where we sent forward? Is it going inclining? All of those.
Geoffrey Wade
All of those. But especially as it gets towards the end,
Nick Cagle
re visitation,
Geoffrey Wade
bega them, even poor. And thanks p My thanks are too dear a hape Haney, by the way, HAPE knee, two syllables.
I, in, in my script, I would put a, a little break, a zu after two. My thanks are two. Dear ney.
Daniel Cordova
Hate Me.
Geoffrey Wade
Let, let him, that’s kind of the end of a, a little beat there. And you go into, were you not sent for Yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
It occurred to me, Jeff, and this time, this time through as I was listening, and I’m looking at those lines of this approach that you had talked earlier. ’cause this is one of those things, like Fred, you know, let’s have a beer. Yeah. Tell, I mean, because, ’cause I, I did it a little more, a little more ominous in the attack. But I think this is part of that. If, if he’s, you know, you get more, more with honey than with
Geoffrey Wade
A hundred percent. And, and it, it progresses. It’s,
Marcelo Tubert
yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
It, were you not sent for.
Daniel Cordova
So my
Geoffrey Wade
Did you really come here on your own?
Daniel Cordova
My, my my take on all of that, by the way, and, and Gideon can maybe, or, or Jeffrey can, can either verify or, or, or set me straight, is that it’s not like, first of all, they don’t live in, in Elsinor. They live further enough away that they had to come to Elsinor, right?
Geoffrey Wade
Absolutely.
Daniel Cordova
And that even though they were childhood friends, that they’re not in the same status, that they would have the money to just come to a royal wedding. Right? That it’s go, how could you get here? You get, I mean, what, you know, this is
Geoffrey Wade
an
Daniel Cordova
expensive trip or something like that, right? Is it a free visitation? Are you doing it on your own?
Geoffrey Wade
Y yes. I think free is not in the sense of paid for, or, you know, free in
Daniel Cordova
terms
Geoffrey Wade
of money. But have you come, have you come freely? I I think, you know, they’re university buddies, so they, they’re, they, they have enough wherewithal, enough, you know, cash to, to move around. It’s,
Gideon Rappaport
they’re gentlemen. They’re gentlemen. They’re
Geoffrey Wade
gentlemen. But they’re
Daniel Cordova
not of the Same, they’re not of the same group as Horatio,
Gideon Rappaport
right?
Daniel Cordova
No, No,
Geoffrey Wade
no.
Gideon Rappaport
But Morally
Daniel Cordova
he’s their college buddy. And, and then Rose Gilster are guys they grew up with. He Grew up with, right. Or I would say,
Gideon Rappaport
I would say, I would say grammar school through high school buddies.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
Or Rosecrans and Gilden, stern and college and grad school. Buddy is Horatio.
Daniel Cordova
Okay.
Geoffrey Wade
Okay.
Gideon Rappaport
Okay. And I would also say they gentlemen, so they have enough money. That’s not the point. Free visitation simply means free willed. Are you coming by your own free will or are you called?
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. Okay. I mean, I just, I think this, I mean, I find this section fascinating. Were you not sent for, is it your own inclining? Is it a free visitation? Three questions come, come deal justly with me. He waits again. Come, come nay speak.
Nick Cagle
Ah, yeah,
Geoffrey Wade
you, you get, you get a, you get a really nice arc there. It starts.
Daniel Cordova
So
Geoffrey Wade
whatcha guys doing here?
Daniel Cordova
Four.
Geoffrey Wade
Did you come here on your, and each, each one of ’em, you know, you can ratchet up a little bit.
So you gotta start low enough. So you got, you got some ratcheting to do.
And gilster the best thing he can say, well, what, what do you want me to say? And he says,
Nick Cagle
well,
Geoffrey Wade
anything, Jesus, I can tell by the way you look.
Gideon Rappaport
They don’t wanna answer. They don’t want to answer.
Geoffrey Wade
That’s, that’s kind of the climax, you know, if you wanna look at a little, little ladder that you’re climbing here, but the, the, I just think dramatically, the more time you give them to answer and they don’t, the more you build the tension. Right?
Gideon Rappaport
Give
Geoffrey Wade
a real answer. Just gimme a real, just talk to me, talk to me. You’re like a, you’re like a salesman. You know, tell me what you need. Or, or, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s it’s rhetoric. It’s, it’s, so just, that’s just one thing I wanted to point out. But I do, again, I want to, I wanna salute you for the way you using words, the way you said prison, Dan was terrific.
Where is it?
Oh, in, in this, this little stick the, this little back and forth at the beginning, 2 64.
Again, Dan, the way he picked out prison was great.
Rosen Kranz, then it’s the world one, right? World is the operative word there.
Gideon Rappaport
Yes. I had
Geoffrey Wade
the
Gideon Rappaport
same note. And,
Geoffrey Wade
and again, Rosen Kranz, it was a little, you know, poor old rose and Kranz, Denmark being one of the rest. Well, we think not so my Lord. They’re actually the pronoun I think does work for you. Right.
Marcelo Tubert
Hang on just a second. So then it’s the world one, right? The way I’m, I’m still back there.
Geoffrey Wade
Yes. Well, that’s world one. That’s like two,
Gideon Rappaport
Let’s say C3, three,
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
So that’s two. And then, and then what’s the one that you were just mentioning?
Geoffrey Wade
I think at 2 66? I think it’s, we think not so, my Lord.
I don’t know. That’s a field of choice. You can go with what you want, but I, I think it’s
Marcelo Tubert
As oppo. Did I say something else? We think Not.
Geoffrey Wade
So I think you said we, we think not so we
Marcelo Tubert
think not
Geoffrey Wade
so I salute you for going for the verb, but
Marcelo Tubert
We think not so. Oh, you’re saying we we think not so my Lord. Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
I
Gideon Rappaport
think either We, either that or not.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. I, I I like the we ’cause it’s like you’re trying tojo him out of his Yeah. His lonely position over there.
Gideon Rappaport
They both, they both work.
Geoffrey Wade
They both work. Whoever on 2 76, substance versus shadow. That bit was very good. I think that’s, that was you, Dan again, you really got that
Oh, antithesis there.
2 84.
Oh, 2 84. I think after that the,
oh no, I’m sorry. It’s guild and stern, Guild and Stern at 2 76, you say, which dreams indeed are ambition for the very substance of the ambitious is merely the shadow of a dream, which guild and stern nicely done on that.
At 2 83, no, two 80.
Fuck. What am I looking at here?
Oh, yeah. Hamlet at about 2 84.
Then our, our beggars bodies and our monarchs and outstretch heroes. The beggars shadows. Give yourself a little break there. It’s like, this is, this is the end of the word play.
There’s another little, okay, that, that, that’s enough of that. Let’s let this Right. There’s a little break there.
And yeah, 2 95 I’ve talked about. There’s, there’s definitely a break there. Before you go into, were you not sent for
Marcelo Tubert
Hape? Hey, penny. Hey, Penny.
Geoffrey Wade
Knee
Nick Cagle
hape,
Geoffrey Wade
knee hape, knee
Marcelo Tubert
Hape,
Geoffrey Wade
Hape. And then knee your leg joint there.
Marcelo Tubert
Knee, yeah. Hape
Geoffrey Wade
knee.
Marcelo Tubert
Oh, I gotcha.
Geoffrey Wade
Oh, and this is, this is just me. But I think that the world is a sterile promontory just sounds better in my ear than sterile.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah. I didn’t know about, I was gonna ask about that. Also, almost
Geoffrey Wade
Three syllables. I
Daniel Cordova
didn’t know if One was more British and one was more American, or if it just sounds better sterile.
Geoffrey Wade
It, it’s, I I’m, I’m, I’m sure we could debate it till the cows came home. It’s just, it’s a
Gideon Rappaport
stronger vowel.
Geoffrey Wade
It’s a stronger, yeah. To make that eye long and almost make it three syllables. There’s certainly a diff th at the end stair aisle.
It, it, it just, it helps the word emerge.
Nick Cagle
Gideon, can I ask a question?
Gideon Rappaport
Yeah. I’ll just say the British, the aisle is British and the ill all is American. Yes,
Geoffrey Wade
yes.
Nick Cagle
I don’t understand the line then, are our beggars bodies and our monarchs and outstretched heroes. The beggars shadows.
Gideon Rappaport
Okay, so go back a line.
Marcelo Tubert
So what line is that, Nick? Line
Gideon Rappaport
two. Starting at line two 80. Try to make this clear.
Nick Cagle
I I’ve never understood It.
Gideon Rappaport
I have, I hold ambition of so airy, empty and light insignificant equality that it’s not even just a shadow, it’s the shadow of a shadow.
Nick Cagle
That’s
Gideon Rappaport
that line. If that’s case, if ambition is the shadow of a shadow, then our beggars who have no ambition versus our monarchs and outstretch heroes have ambition.
Nick Cagle
Oh.
Gideon Rappaport
So the monarchs and outstretch heroes are merely the shadows of the beggars, because the beggars have no ambition. So for them, I’m getting, I’m getting IC stuff in it.
If so,
Nick Cagle
it’s about ambition.
Gideon Rappaport
If yes, if ambition is so light that it’s merely a shadow’s shadow, then we can say that our beggars are the bodies and our monarchs are the beggars shadows.
Nick Cagle
Thank you. Thank you.
Gideon Rappaport
Did that work? I don’t even know.
Nick Cagle
Yeah, that’s much clearer for me. Thank you.
Gideon Rappaport
Alright, Good.
Marcelo Tubert
I can’t wait to play that back on YouTube.
Gideon Rappaport
I have about six of my own I wanted to point to. May I You’re Jeffrey, you’re muted.
Geoffrey Wade
Damn it. I just wanna add one tiny thing to that Gian. Yeah. As, as it helps, if you think then are, and take the hour out of the OUR, the hour out of that line, and you go, then you could say then beggars are bodies and monarchs are shadows.
Gideon Rappaport
Are the beggars shadows?
Geoffrey Wade
Yes. Are the beggars shadows?
Nick Cagle
Oh yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. The,
Geoffrey Wade
the Hour
Nick Cagle
amazing. Are
Geoffrey Wade
power
Gideon Rappaport
Is just neutral. It’s just
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
General.
Daniel Cordova
And
Geoffrey Wade
It’s
Daniel Cordova
also like, you know, only a thing of substance can cast the shadow.
Nick Cagle
Oh, nice.
Daniel Cordova
You know, the beggars are the only, he, you know, he does this throughout the play where he talks about, you know, the, the beggar can go through the, the gut of the king and all that stuff.
Nick Cagle
But
Daniel Cordova
where he is saying,
Nick Cagle
you know,
Daniel Cordova
the beggars are the bodies, or the only thing of substance, and the idea of becoming a king or a prince or in the court, that’s just, just, that’s just, you know, airy and light.
Gideon Rappaport
It’s just what
Daniel Cordova
a
Gideon Rappaport
beggar, it’s just what a beggar would imagine. But it’s not real. Yeah.
Daniel Cordova
It’s a dream. Right.
Nick Cagle
That’s
Gideon Rappaport
what ambition is. I
Nick Cagle
see.
Geoffrey Wade
And the, the, the, the difficulty of this is exactly why he takes a little break and goes, dudes, let’s go get a drink. Let’s go into
Nick Cagle
the
Geoffrey Wade
court. ’cause I I, this we’ve reached a point of nonsense here.
Gideon Rappaport
It’s got so convoluted. I don’t wanna do this anymore.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. Okay. You, yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
So 2 63, you already said this, but I just want reinforce then, is the world one denmark’s a prison? If Denmark’s a prison, the world is a prison. Okay,
Marcelo Tubert
then Is den is the world one?
Gideon Rappaport
Yes. Two 70. I don’t know, Jeffrey, if this is what you meant, you liked, I heard, I think it was Dan say to me, it is a prison. And I just wanna ask which is, which in Word is more interesting is, or prison.
Geoffrey Wade
Oh, no, I, I I
Gideon Rappaport
You were talking about the earlier version.
Geoffrey Wade
I, I think the, earlier when you said Denmark’s a prison.
Gideon Rappaport
Yeah. That’s, that Was
Geoffrey Wade
No, that definitely here, to me it’s a prison. Yes.
Gideon Rappaport
Hit prison 3 0 8,
every preserved not preserved because it’s not poetry. So there’s no need to put the ed on it.
Geoffrey Wade
Right.
Gideon Rappaport
Three 12
Hamlet, na. Then I have an eye view that is to the audience, that meaning that’s an aside, and then you turn back to them. If you love me, hold not off. So you’re confessing to us that now you’re onto them and you’re gonna keep an eye on them, but you’re not telling them that. Yes. Does that make sense?
Nick Cagle
Indeed. Yes.
Gideon Rappaport
Okay. 3 21,
what is this? Oh, you hit my, instead of disposition, it’s not, it’s not so heavily with my disposition as opposed to someone else’s. It’s so heavily with my disposition, my, my attitude, my mood.
Yes.
Geoffrey Wade
Yes.
Gideon Rappaport
Okay. 3 27. Everybody’s saying what a piece of work is, man, there is some authority for that in the early text, but we’ve chosen, and I chosen my edition to go with what a piece of work is a man. So unless Jeffrey overrules me, put the back in.
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah. It’s there.
Gideon Rappaport
Okay. Yes.
Geoffrey Wade
It, it should be there. And interestingly, I think I learned this speech wrong because everywhere I look, it’s, it’s a man.
Nick Cagle
Hmm.
Gideon Rappaport
But it, it’s, the Folio has it one way in the Quarto the other, I think. Yeah. So anyway, the last one is Lent and entertainment. So Lent is when you give something up, right. And you, you don’t have parties and you don’t eat meat. And, and so entertainment during Lent is much, much reduced to fair compared to entertainment anywhere else. So, so if you don’t delight in, man, the poor players are going to have a merely Lentin entertainment and not a profuse and, and rich one.
Marcelo Tubert
So it’s a poor reception. They’re gonna have a, a, a, a poor reception. The player shall
Gideon Rappaport
receive.
Marcelo Tubert
Correct.
Gideon Rappaport
Correct. So you wanna hit Linton, so we get that? Yeah, that’s it.
Nick Cagle
Hmm?
Gideon Rappaport
You’re muted.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. I’m, I’m trying to avoid the, the dog. Now let’s do this one more time with everybody in the part they haven’t played yet. So that’s Nick as Hamlet. Dan as Rosecrans. Gilden Stern is Marcelo. Just so everybody has a chance to, to do this.
And I I, you, you’ve all got so many notes at this point, but I do think it’s going very well. I I I am I’m getting a lot from it. I hope you are
Marcelo Tubert
too. Yeah, No, we will too. And then, but it’ll all filter as we work on the next week. Yeah,
Geoffrey Wade
yeah. Absolutely.
Marcelo Tubert
We will Have forgotten. What’s
Nick Cagle
great about this, it’s like physical therapy or something. It, it’s working the small muscles that we don’t get to work. You know what I mean?
Geoffrey Wade
Exactly. And that’s why I enjoy these kinds of sessions. I mean, it’s a kind of luxury that you just don’t get.
Nick Cagle
There’s
Geoffrey Wade
simply not time for it, you know? But if, if we as you, as you said, we, you can do it on your own a little more now, you know, when you go through it again instead of, you know, you go through it word by word and, and it’s, it’s great. All right. I’m gonna, I’m gonna go away and gilden stern start us off.
Marcelo Tubert
My honored Lord.
Hang
Geoffrey Wade
on Dan.
Daniel Cordova
I Was muted. I was muted. Start again. Here
Marcelo Tubert
we go. My honored Lord,
Daniel Cordova
My most dear Lord.
Nick Cagle
My excellent good friends. How does thou gild and stern, ah, Rosen Krantz good lads, how do you both
Daniel Cordova
As in indifferent children of the earth,
Marcelo Tubert
Happy in that we are not over happy on fortune’s, on fortune’s cap. We are not the very button
Nick Cagle
Nor the soles of her shoe.
Daniel Cordova
Neither my Lord.
Nick Cagle
Then you live about her waist or in the middle of her favors
Marcelo Tubert
Faith, her privates. We
Nick Cagle
In the secret parts of fortune. Almost true.
She is a trumpet.
What news?
Daniel Cordova
None my Lord. But that the world’s grown, honest
Nick Cagle
Then is doomsday near, oh, wait, so lemme try that again then. Is doomsday near?
But your news is not true.
Let me question more in particular.
What have you, my good friends deserved at the hands of fortune that she sends you to prison? Hither
Marcelo Tubert
Prison. My lord.
Nick Cagle
Denmark’s a prison
Daniel Cordova
Den is the world one,
Nick Cagle
A goodly one
in which there are many confines, wards and dungeons, Denmark being one of the worst.
Daniel Cordova
We think not so my Lord.
Nick Cagle
Why then his none to you
for there is nothing, neither good nor bad, but thinking makes it so to me it is a prison.
Daniel Cordova
Well then your ambition makes it one, it is too narrow for your mind.
Lemme try that again. Why? Then your ambition makes it one, it’s too narrow for your mind.
Nick Cagle
Oh God. I could be bounded in a nutshell. Oh, try again.
Oh God. I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space where not that I had bad dreams,
Marcelo Tubert
Which dreams, indeed, our ambition for the very substance of the ambitious is merely the shadow of a dream.
Nick Cagle
A dream itself is, but a shadow
Daniel Cordova
Truly. And I hold ambition of so airy and light equality that it is. But a shadow’s shadow
Nick Cagle
Are our beggars bodies
and our monarchs and outstretched heroes.
The beggars shadows,
shall we to the court or by my Faye? I cannot reason.
Marcelo Tubert
We’ll wait a
Daniel Cordova
We’ll wait upon you.
Nick Cagle
Oh, No such matter.
I will not sort you with the rest of my servants for to speak to you like an honest man.
I am most dreadfully attended, but in the beaten way of friendship, what make you at Elsinore
Daniel Cordova
To visit you? My Lord. No other occasion
Nick Cagle
Beggar that I am, I am even poor in thanks.
But I thank you and sure dear friends, my thanks are too dear. A hate me.
Were you not sent for,
is it your own inclining?
Is it a free visitation?
Come, come deal justly with me.
Come, come nay speak.
Marcelo Tubert
What should we say? My Lord,
Nick Cagle
Anything but to the purpose you were sent for,
you were sent for.
And there is a kind of confession in your looks, which your modesty have not craft enough to color.
I know the good king and queen have sent for you
Daniel Cordova
To what end my Lord
Nick Cagle
That you must, that you must teach me. But let me conjure you by the rights of our fellowship, by the consonant, by the constancy of our youth,
by the obligation of our ever preserved love.
And by what? More dear, a better prosper can charge you their prosper. Sorry. Prosper can charge you with all,
be even and direct with me. Whether you were sent for or no
Daniel Cordova
What, say you
Nick Cagle
Nay, then I have an eye of you. If you love me, hold not off
Marcelo Tubert
My Lord.
We were sent for
Nick Cagle
I will tell you why. So shall my, so shall my anticipation prevent your discovery and your secrecy to the king and queen molt. No feather
I have of late, but wherefore I know not lost all my mirth, forgone all custom of exercises forgone, all custom of exercises.
And indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly framed the earth seems to me a sterile promontory, this most excellent canopy. The air, look you, this brave or hanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire. Why it appear nothing to me, but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapors.
What a piece of work is a man?
How noble, in reason how infinite in faculty, how infinite in faculties inform and moving, how express and admirable in action, how, like an angel in apprehension, how like a God, the paragon of the world, the beauty of animals. And yet to me, what is this quintessence of dust manites, not me known nor woman. Neither though by your smiling, you seem to say so,
Daniel Cordova
My Lord, there was no such stuff in my thoughts.
Nick Cagle
Why did you laugh then when I said, manites not me,
Daniel Cordova
To think, my Lord, if you delight not in man, what Lenin entertainment, the players shall receive from you, we coded them on the way. And here there are they coming to offer you service.
Geoffrey Wade
Excellent, excellent, excellent, guys.
Gideon Rappaport
Excellent. That was really good.
Geoffrey Wade
Thank you for putting up with this. I, I as a, a few quick things that I just wanna say. And you know, as usual, I know the, the, the, the exercise sometimes makes getting the, the exact words difficult. Nick, that was a great start. The, the friendliness of it.
Who says tis nun? Well, Hamlet says tis nun to you right at about line 2 68.
Nick Cagle
Yes. Where there’s nothing either.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah.
Nick Cagle
Either good nor bad, but thinking, yeah,
Geoffrey Wade
I, I think the operative word there is none. And in the very next or later in that sentence, thinking makes it so I think those, those are the words you wanna be heading for
Gideon Rappaport
Jeffrey. I, I don’t know if you know you’re not on video.
Geoffrey Wade
Oh, lemme get back on video. You can hear me? I I really am a video on a God mic.
Daniel Cordova
Ah, There he’s
Nick Cagle
There. He’s
Daniel Cordova
Umh
Geoffrey Wade
Ro Rosen Kranz In line two 80.
I picked up something from you on truly I hold ambition of so airy and light equality.
Yeah. Again, this is sort of a rose crans character thing that I thought was terrific. I I think he’s slightly showing off. He, he’s jumping in with, oh, oh, oh, I know it’s good. I’ll, I’ll take this another, another level, right?
Daniel Cordova
Yeah. Because, you know, when I mean I didn’t, it’s Kind of
Geoffrey Wade
eagerness to him. That is lovely. That’s
Daniel Cordova
specifically intentional there. But great. But I think it’s also, you know, it’s, it’s neat to think also that, you know, in the stopper stuff that it’s all about, for them, it’s all about word games, right? Yes.
Geoffrey Wade
Yes, yes. And
Daniel Cordova
so then here they’re, they’re playing the word games, you know,
Geoffrey Wade
Again, a hundred percent. And, and if you, and
Gideon Rappaport
It’s, it’s, it’s reinforced by the idea that in, in complaining about the airiness of ambition, he pretends to be renouncing it as if he has no ambition, but they’re flattering the king and queen all through the play. They’re flattering hamlet, you know? So it’s not that they’re free of ambition, like high moral beings, but they know the word play. Yes.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. So, again, nicely done line Nick at line 2 83.
Oh this break.
Oh no, Hamlet. The, it’s the beggars versus beggars, bodies versus shadows bit. I just wrote
Nick Cagle
good,
Geoffrey Wade
you, you really got that line. Two 90,
You, you, you took that break there. I’m most dreadfully attended, but in the beaten path of friendship, what, what I wrote here was, was catch yourself.
So the, i i, I think of this, this first, but in the beaten path of friendship, if it’s almost a, oh by the way, you know, just,
Nick Cagle
oh, I see. Yeah. Rather,
Geoffrey Wade
rather than already suspicious, like, hey, you know, it’s weird. Why, why are you guys here, by the way? You know,
Nick Cagle
it’s a, there’s a but there. Yeah. You know, there’s a but yeah. So it’s,
Geoffrey Wade
it, I mean, I, I could see, almost see a, you know, if you were staging it, you could almost do a, a, a, a, a false exit there, you know?
Nick Cagle
Oh yeah. You can
Geoffrey Wade
almost be on your way out. Like, let this, this scene’s over this, you know, we’ve done our word play. We’ve met, it’s not as good to see, hey, well, no, wait a minute, wait a minute. An just answer me this one question, you know,
Daniel Cordova
it’s like Colombo. Yeah. Just one more thing.
Geoffrey Wade
Exactly. Exactly. So take advantage of, of that whoever’s doing, Hamlet, I think you can make a little more of that.
As you were going through when you said you have not craft enough to color the word craft emerged really well. This is just another example of how this slow thing craft is a, it’s a great word. You know, it, it’s, it’s both art and, you know, craftiness, it’s, it’s, it’s got a, a number of meanings to it.
Gideon Rappaport
And it’s literative with color, craft enough to color.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. And it’s literative. That’s right. It’s not, it’s not actual verse, but it’s, some of it is, you know, as near as damnit verse. So I’m, I’m just, I’m picking these things out so you guys know that I’m appreciating the, the color and weight you’re finding in many of these words, the word is in line three, tenets, proposer, and by what? More dear, a better proposer or a, a better person who’s asking you a better questioner. That’s what the, thank you,
Nick Cagle
right?
Geoffrey Wade
I
Nick Cagle
got
Gideon Rappaport
stuck On
Nick Cagle
them.
Gideon Rappaport
Can can I talk about those lines while you’re right there?
Nick Cagle
Sure. Yeah.
Gideon Rappaport
I, I want to hear that Hamlet is sort of doing what he does later as an imitation of o Rick’s overblown speech. He hasn’t been, he hasn’t been getting the answer out of them by, you know, by the way and beaten way of friendship. So now he’s conjuring, that’s even more intense, but he’s not really doing it. He’s pretending to do this by fancier and fancier language. Oh, let me go way out of my way to show you how extravagantly I can ask you to answer this question. And it, and it builds from, by the rights of our fellowship constancy, that’s a bigger word of our youth obligation of our ever preserved love.
He’s just expanding these words rhetorically to sound big to them. And he, he’s having fun doing it, but he thinks maybe that’ll work
Geoffrey Wade
Very good. And
Gideon Rappaport
then
Geoffrey Wade
clearly ends it with a very direct question.
Gideon Rappaport
Yes,
Geoffrey Wade
yes or no, I’m asking you a yes or no question.
Daniel Cordova
No, he Does the same thing with the, with the, the grave digger where he, he says, just gimme a straight answer, you know, but he, he plays along with the word play for a while,
Gideon Rappaport
right? And
Daniel Cordova
then, but then just gimme the straight
Gideon Rappaport
answer’s, Right? That’s right. And I just have one more thing, and that’s at 2 87.
I, I think maybe I’m sorry to be interrupting Jeffrey.
Geoffrey Wade
No, no.
Gideon Rappaport
But I only have one more thing. I will not sort you with the rest of my servants. You hit the u nick and I would hit the rest. Oh,
Nick Cagle
okay.
Gideon Rappaport
Sort, sort and rest.
Nick Cagle
I, I knew that at it is one of those times when you say it and go, ah,
Gideon Rappaport
You got,
Nick Cagle
that’s good. Good.
Gideon Rappaport
That’s,
Nick Cagle
That’s
Gideon Rappaport
it. That was,
Geoffrey Wade
I mean, you can, you can hear it yourself.
Nick Cagle
I
Gideon Rappaport
was really, I was impressed by this one. This was a really good, I mean, all of them. But this was a very good reading.
Geoffrey Wade
Yes, Nick, I like the way you take your time. There’s, again, this is just a sort of acting note e even in this kind of a read, the, this, this build which you were getting from angel to God, to the beauty of the world, to the paragon of animals.
That’s the climax. I mean, it’s the, the paragon. There’s nothing better.
Give yourself that break. There’s a dash in there. I mean, who, you know, punctuation and dashes. It’s all, it’s all what
Marcelo Tubert
line, what Line?
Nick Cagle
I always thought the, I always thought the peak was God, and then he was blowing off the beauty of the world, of paragon of animals. And yet to me, what
Geoffrey Wade
is this? I I, I would dispute that.
Nick Cagle
Okay. Yeah, I
Gideon Rappaport
would too.
Geoffrey Wade
Okay.
Gideon Rappaport
I would keep, I would even build further because the actual, the actual fall is after quintessence, which is the highest thing
Nick Cagle
Oh.
Gideon Rappaport
Of dust, which is load.
Nick Cagle
Ah, this is what it’s all about.
Geoffrey Wade
We, we, we, this is a, a fielder’s choice,
Nick Cagle
but
Geoffrey Wade
there’s definitely a build, at least through the paragon of animals. Yes.
And, and there’s a, there’s a dash written in there. Again, punctuation is always debatable, but I think that’s the moment where he thinks, d take time to consider that R. Right.
Nick Cagle
So
Geoffrey Wade
that it’s not a prepared speech. It’s, it’s, this is great, this is great. This is beau. This is the best thing in the universe.
Why can I not? Right?
Nick Cagle
Yeah. Why
Geoffrey Wade
can I not enjoy this, this masterpiece? That’s what you start with. What a masterpiece is, is man,
not, you know, well, look at this piece of work. It’s really, this is a, this is a perfectly shaped vase. What whatever it is, what kind of, every kind of imagery you wanna use,
but give yourself time to go from the, the most exquisite creation in the universe to a contestants of dust.
Nick Cagle
Right.
Geoffrey Wade
Just give,
Nick Cagle
give
Geoffrey Wade
yourself the time. You know, Shakespeare’s giving you a, a very strong scaffold to stand on here. We, we will, we will go with you as long as you are thinking it through, rather than reading a, a graduation speech. Right.
Gideon Rappaport
Right.
Geoffrey Wade
It, it’s in this moment. And that’s what got, that’s what got Marcelo. You know, it’s that, that’s what will get us. It’s great.
We have reached time. You’ve come past time with me.
Just really terrific work. I know it’s hard. We, we, we will go back to more, this is our third. Is this our third one?
Marcelo Tubert
Yeah, we have one more.
Geoffrey Wade
Yeah. So the last one, oh, there’s Nathan. So the last one will be, you know, we’ll be going back to, you know, reg regular read throughs. We’ll do the whole thing for everybody.
Marcelo Tubert
This was very enlightening. I enjoyed it.
Nick Cagle
Yeah.
Geoffrey Wade
I, I urge you to, at some point, just once, just read through it really slowly out loud, out loud.
Say the words out loud, bearing this kind of thing in mind, you know, see if you can look down at the script and, and get, you know, one clause or, you know, half of a sentence or three words, and then look up and say it to, you know,
Marcelo Tubert
A bit about trying to read this at, at a, let’s See.
Nathan Agin
Yeah,
Geoffrey Wade
yeah. And I mean, this is, you know, yeah.
Marcelo Tubert
Anyway, doesn’t matter.
Geoffrey Wade
That’s the, that’s the whole point of this is, is to allow ourselves these, these incredible luxuries that we don’t get normally. So
Gideon Rappaport
I have A quick question for Daniel. You sent me two things in the chat, which are screenshots.
Daniel Cordova
Yeah. Actually there was, I meant to send it to the group and I actually sent it to you individually. That was just to show the other actors how I have my screen set up.
Geoffrey Wade
Oh, oh, when
Daniel Cordova
We were talking about looking at the camera versus looking at the eyes.
Nick Cagle
Thank you.
Nathan Agin
Yes.
Geoffrey Wade
Right. Yeah.
Nathan Agin
Right.
Geoffrey Wade
Very good.
Nathan Agin
Glad Yeah, glad you guys got all that sorted. And, and yes, I just wanna add my appreciation for the exercise too, as, as slow and laborious as it might feel it. There, there really is a lot of illumination, not only from what I seem to observe amongst, you know, the group, but also for, you know, as a listener, as as an observer. Just, you know, different how different things land on my ear, different parts of the scene that, you know, we might kind of speed through normally, that everything is, is kind of really slowed down. It’s very enjoyable. So yeah, great work.
I’ll try to remember to start saying these things at the top of the sessions. But for those watching, thanks so much for being here. There is a Patreon, if you want to support the project and get some additional early access to some things, a priority with questions.
If you do have any comments, leave those below. If you enjoyed the video, enjoyed the session, hit that like button subscribe. So you’d be the first to know about future rehearsal sessions and come on back or check out the, the final session of the Shakespeare and Stopper work we’re, we’re doing this month. So that’s it for me. Hope you guys all had a great session. Enjoyed it. And yeah, we’ll see you back for next, next week, the final session. Thanks
Geoffrey Wade
guys.
Gideon Rappaport
Thank you guys.
Nathan Agin
Alright, take care.
Gideon Rappaport
Good Work.
Geoffrey Wade
Bye.
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